WRV200 and ipsec vs quickvpn, etc

Discussion in 'Cisco Small Business Routers and VPN Solutions' started by bradandmarcia, Jun 27, 2008.

  1. bradandmarcia

    bradandmarcia Addicted to LI Member

    Hello Everyone,

    I just found this forum and am glad.. I am hoping you can clear a couple of things up for me...

    I keep reading conflicting things(or i'm intrepeting them so)...

    Does the quickvpn client use IPSEC?? Do you need IPSEC settings set for it to work(and I don't mean just the passthrough setting)?? I read for the quickvpn all you need to set is the username and password and enable ipsec service on the client pc.. but I read somewhere else that this isnt' right so..

    What's the advantage of say using IPSEC built into windows over QUICKVPN, etc?? Is one more stable? If you do IPSEC built into windows do you not then need to click and like login?? Is it always on then??

    I bought the router and got it working with the quickvpn, atleast I think so, I am setting it up at home now before taking it to a friend's small business .. after I got connected I could locally via my internal network pull up the webgui..

    So, basically, what's the advantages of using ipsec in winders versus the quickvpn client??

    Thanks again for the help.. I am new to this, but use to setup lots of small networks, etc so.. I have the basics of the routers down.. just not the vpn part..

    Thanks ..

  2. DocLarge

    DocLarge Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    An advantage is that you don't have to go through the long drawn out process of attempting to set up IPSEC in windows if you use the quickvpn client. When you look at the file in the windows program directory, the basis of quickvpn "IS" windows ipsec policy configuration. The stupid thing about is if you try to configure the exact same thing manually in Windows (as opposed to just loading the quickvpn client that has the "exact" same policy created for it), you have a 1 in 30 chance of actually getting the IPSEC policy in windows to run. That being said (unless you've got the patience), you're better of running quickvpn or a third party vpn application.

    This, by the way, is solely my take on things :)

  3. bradandmarcia

    bradandmarcia Addicted to LI Member

    Cool, thanks for the Reply Doc, i see your name on many of the threads I have read.. One other question.. I can't get the client to read the certificate right and get the dreaded message everytime.. I think i'm going to upgrade the firmware, I hope that helps.. I have the newest version of the quickvpn, i just hope the firmware upgrade goes well and I don't end up losing all my settings.. I had to load the patch for xp sp2 firewall also, but now I can keep the firewall turned on on the pc.. not that it's needed really with the firewall at the router also..
  4. bradandmarcia

    bradandmarcia Addicted to LI Member

    I upgraded my firmware and it kept some of my settings but all the vpn settings were gone.. So i just set them back real quick and now when I connect, I don't get the certificate messages anymore.. literally upgraded firmware, now certificate messages are gone.. was weird, the upgrade kept like the 2 user accounts for the quickvpn but lost the stuff in the ipsec tab and kept the admin password i had set but lost some other things.. makes me wonder if I should do a reset and do it all from scratch, just to be sure things are right...

    Thanks Again

  5. ifican

    ifican Network Guru Member

    It is generally recommended that you clear nvram prior to and after a reset for the very reasons you describe. Most just do it 1 time on either side, honestly i never do unless i have an issue but im just stubborn that way. Depending on what version of firmware you are talking about, yes an upgrade could fix alot. I have not played with the wrv200 in quite sometime so i dont know how stable the later code is but the early versions were very finiky.
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