Discussion in 'Cisco Small Business Routers and VPN Solutions' started by Liquid05, Feb 5, 2006.

  1. Liquid05

    Liquid05 Guest

    I have it and if anyone wants it post there email.
  2. TazUk

    TazUk Network Guru Member

    Do you know what's changed in it?
  3. hurleyp

    hurleyp Network Guru Member

    Do you have proper authorization from Linksys to distribute beta firmware? If not, no thanks.

    Coincidentally, someone has started a thread at DSL Reports about a new 2.9 beta:

  4. TazUk

    TazUk Network Guru Member

    Well seeing as Linksys last released an official firmware on their website 2 years ago I think that's unlikely :rofl: Guess you'll be running 2.37 for a very long time then ;)
  5. rmi2065

    rmi2065 Network Guru Member

    email please coruptr 'at' gmail dot com
  6. aries

    aries Network Guru Member

  7. Email for firmware...

    email to grady.borders at the same domain as rmi2065. Thanks...

    I am a serious newbie. I am running 2.37 and having problems with dyndns automatically updating, general stability and length of time for OSX boxes to resolve domain names. Any idea if there have been fixes in these areas?

    I am also having trouble setting up tunnels, but that was before reading the threads here so I was probably doing something wrong.
  8. TazUk

    TazUk Network Guru Member

    Re: Email for firmware...

    I haven't found any Linksys router where that works correctly :?
  9. kisps

    kisps Network Guru Member

    Send that firmware this way :D

    kispsdotnet @ gmail . com
  10. kisps

    kisps Network Guru Member

    Has anyone actually received the firmware from this guy? I'm still waiting for an email.
  11. rmi2065

    rmi2065 Network Guru Member

    I haven't... Been waiting a really loooooong time. :grin:
  12. redcivic

    redcivic Network Guru Member

    Send it to s
  13. redcivic

    redcivic Network Guru Member

    Any update on this?
  14. TazUk

    TazUk Network Guru Member

    I don't think the original poster will every respond/return ;)
  15. redcivic

    redcivic Network Guru Member

    Okay, I have now have 2.38.2. Does anyone need it?
  16. redcivic

    redcivic Network Guru Member

    oops I mean 2.39.2
  17. redcivic

    redcivic Network Guru Member

    Bye the way access restrictions still works like shit with this firmware. Whenever access restrictions is enabled, the internet slows to a crawl on my network. When access restrictions is disabled everything works great. I have been buying linksys products for years and they just might lose my company's business over this router if they do not get the kinks out very soon. I bought the product because of it's features yet none of the features work all together.
  18. TazUk

    TazUk Network Guru Member

    Best to email it to one of the mods then they can upload it to the site ;)
  19. DocLarge

    DocLarge Super Moderator Staff Member Member


    we've all taken it in the ass on this one...

    The WRV54G has had so much damn potential from the start, but Linksys has played a hand of cards where they give it "just enough" to be appealing but "not enough" to be any competition for their other products (the RV0XX series).

    One of my biggest gripes, along with it not supporting NAT-T, and passing GRE is that I bought the quickvpn 50 user upgraded license, and that firmware version (2.37E) was based on the broken 2.37 version where the pptp server doesn't synchronize (the phase I and II algorithms don't synch up when you try to set vpn tunnels). Additionally, this thing can do AES but it's not doing it.

    There hasn't been official firmware for this box since (Taz, how long has it been, 2 years?) late 2004 and I personally have just about lost the torch for this thing. Yes, it was "the bomb" when it came out, and it was great when I finally got quickvpn working, but now, it's becoming an irritant not being able to see it perfrom as well as lesser products in its class because linkysys has lost interest in development. This thing can still rule the home arena if linksys would fix the following areas listed below without a doubt!

    It's time to flood the linksys email complaint box again, fellas

    WRV54G request:
    - Need support for NAT-T
    - Need updated 50 user license quickvpn firmware to fix problem with vpn tunnel settings (encryption/algorithm) not synchronizing in phase I and phase II setup
    - Needs to pass GRE packets
    - Needs to support AES

    I'm emailing now and probably will "at least" 5 times a day just so I'm on someone's radar. Oh yes, CISCO is going to get some of this also...

  20. TazUk

    TazUk Network Guru Member

    Yep the last official release was 2.37.0 back in November 2004 :shock:

    What pees me off is the fact that Linksys sold this as a premier product, costing about 60% more than the WRT54G, and yet it doesn't have the feature set to justify that label. In hindsight a WRT54G with one of the third party firmwares would have been a better option. As a VPN router the ancient BEFVP41 is a better choice :doh: Linksys seem to have forgotten about it, so I don't expect to ever see things like NAT-T, WDS, AES, QoS etc. implemented :cry:
  21. eric_stewart

    eric_stewart Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    When you figure out that the WRV54G has a lot of statistics/features similar to a $3500 Cisco PIX 515E, it's no wonder that Cisco/Linksys is nervous about fixing the firmware. You're right....they are teasing us with its features. According to a Tolly Group whitepaper, the WRV54G has clear-text throughput of over 65 Mbps LAN to WAN and LAN to LAN! Encrypted mode throughput is comparable to cleartext throughput too!!!

    - embedded hardware encryption engine for VPN acceleration as part of Intel XScale architecture
    - hardware DMZ which makes the box into a 3-interface firewall
    - syslog
    - 50 site-to-site & 5 remote access VPNs.
    - etc....

    The most frustrating thing is that the hardware already supports AES, but the firmware doesn't. Just as vexing is the fact that Free S/WAN, the IPSec server engine, has been patched eons ago in the underlying Linux operating system to support NAT-T but this patch has somehow not found its way onto the platform.

    Linksys pays Jungo for this software. Obviously they've stopped doing so!

    Cisco has a direct competitor in the 871W. That box, at a price point 3x the WRV54G, does all the stuff that we've been whining about with the WRV54G. Rumour time: Cisco told Linksys not to upgrade the WRV54G. Plausible, isn't it?
  22. TazUk

    TazUk Network Guru Member

    Yes, but if that's the case then they might as well stop making it :sadbye: In any case I doubt it would lose Cisco many sales as both Linksys and their competitors have models which do some/all of those things at a much lower price. People buy Cisco partly because of the name and partly because of the backup they provide.
  23. DocLarge

    DocLarge Super Moderator Staff Member Member


    start bombing their ass's out with email. That's what I'm doing. I'm sending one right now requesting them to revisit this. My shit is going to be soooooo bad, it's going to be considered spam...

  24. JonAlthoff

    JonAlthoff Network Guru Member

    What's the story on the newer firmware 2.38.7 and 2.39.2? Can someone PM me or James Depew and get the newer firmware on the site for downloading? If I can get the firmware I'll get it to James.

    I suppose I'll waste some more of my time emailing Linksys and see what I get.
  25. chris547

    chris547 Network Guru Member

    You might see Qos and the other features that have been added to the RV series of routers since when you come down to it the wrv54g is basically a RV router with Wireless (W) -G (g) added on. Same processor as the rest of the RV family and they also share similar code.
  26. chris547

    chris547 Network Guru Member

    What a lot of silly rumours, I wonder who's been putting these about :lies: They might want to watch out, 5 emails a day is probably getting close but when they claim wrv54g is altering their brainwaves that's when the men in the white coats arrive. :rofl:

    What do you expect if a router costs $3500, sure it's going to be beter. I've got a peugeot 206, it's similar to a porche, four wheels, a engine and exhust, but should I got back to the dealer and complain that the performance is not the same? I don't think so. :knock:

    A patch was indeed available for freeswan but Linksys choice not to use it. Instead we've got Quickvpn which looks suspiciously similar to nat-t functions but only works on certain platforms and also unlike nat-t permits Linksys to sell 50 client versions. Now there's been a few far fetched conspiracies thrown around on this forum but this seems highly fishy, certainly since Openswan one of the sucessors to freeswan has been around long enough for Linksys to replace freeswan and not have to worry about patching anything. :x

    I don't believe Linksys were ever told by Cisco not to continue developing the wrv54g, the 871W is not it's long lost brother and as been pointed out Cisco and Linksys haven't merged their development departments. If Cisco didn't want Linksys competiting they've have just merged the product lines and made Linksys products obsolete like quite a few other merged companies have.

    I think what we are actually seeing is the usual with some bad companies that as soon as they release a product all development stops, they don't bother fixing it and they move on to their next product wheither that be the WRT54GC, WRT54GR, WRT54GX or one other routers that sprung up since the WRV54g's launch. :argue:
  27. DocLarge

    DocLarge Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    New Conspiracy Theory:

    I think Chris is working for Dlink :grin:

    Everybody has their own opinions, and it seems none of us are "not" saying anything that's too far off base. I've got "direct" correspondence regarding a linksys rep that substantiates my hunch that linksys is "running game" on us regarding the WRV54G. Basically, it's (supposedly) been stated that there are "no issues" with the WRV and it's performance is "perfect amongst consumers" out in the field.

    *Cue the little men white coats*

    Either this person is in denial or something is going on. Looks like it might be both.

    Stay tuned...

  28. chris547

    chris547 Network Guru Member

    What a minute what was that you wrote in the other thread?

    "I had to buy another router (SMCBR18VPN)"

    Does that make you a SMC rep then ? :rofl:

    Looks like you've got the standard "no issues" with the WRV email, usually you end up pulling your hair out trying to prove to them that there is. I had to send them logs from my router until they finally confirmed it didn't have NAT-T. It was can you try this can you try that, then they suguest all the problems will go away with Quickvpn, then they pass you on to someone more knowledable who finally admits it.
  29. DocLarge

    DocLarge Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    Believe it or not, I got some email addresses from www.domainsite.com, and my logs on the WRV54G have been working ever since!! This is the first time I've ever had consistent log entries. Hell, since it began working, I went ahead and loaded "Wall Watcher" and I've been happy with my WRV54G since then...

    This small victory is still no substitute for the other features we're looking for though...

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