WTR54GS support?

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by stangri, Nov 7, 2007.

  1. stangri

    stangri LI Guru Member

    Jon, are there any plans to support v 1.0 of WTR54GS in Tomato, now that the CFE on it can be reflashed without the JTAG?

  2. Macskeeball

    Macskeeball LI Guru Member

    I don't think Jon goes to these forums much. You might have better luck emailing him using the email address in the FAQ on the Tomato site.

    Just a friendly little FYI. Unless there's another router I'm not aware of (which there may be), you mean the WRT54GS (R before T). A good way to remember that is to know what it stands for: Wireless Router 54 Mbps 802.11g with SpeedBoost. A mouthful to be sure, but I found that when I realized that it stood for something it helped me remember. It's a little thing, but I thought it might be helpful.

    If we're talking about the same router, then I'm sort surprised that Tomato doesn't run on it. I think it's one of the routers that Linksys used Linux on, so I had sort assumed that Tomato ran on it. It looks like I was wrong about that though. Something new to learn every day.
  3. Low-WRT

    Low-WRT LI Guru Member

    According to the Tomato FAQ Macskeeball posted, it IS supported...assuming it is a WRT54GS v1.0.
  4. roadkill

    roadkill Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    it has enough flash space (4mb) and enough ram(16mb) OpenWRT's WiKi states it is still
    work in progress...
    I think after OpenWRT will work on it properly a modification could be made...
  5. Low-WRT

    Low-WRT LI Guru Member

  6. roadkill

    roadkill Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    if you have version 1 you are in luck and if you got version two wait for the micro Tomato version.
  7. stangri

    stangri LI Guru Member

    Macskeeball, Low-WRT -- I am indeed talking about the wTr54gs router, which is a tiny travel router with the extendable power plug.

    Roadkill -- yes, I have a revision 1.0 and thanks to the DD-WRT forum and the RC5 build was able to put the dd-wrt there. Would like to see how does tomato works on it too. You recon I could just flash it with the WRT-based 1.11 Tomato build?
  8. roadkill

    roadkill Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    No, I think it would kill it.
  9. AliM

    AliM Network Guru Member

    ... 5350 cpu need some special patches to work, or you end in reboot loop.
  10. stangri

    stangri LI Guru Member

    roadkill, AliM -- thanks for the advise I'll stick with the dd-wrt then.
  11. stangri

    stangri LI Guru Member

    Hey you guys, if anyone is in contact with Jon (or whoever contributes to the Tomato firmware), could you please forward them the link to this thread? I've sent an e-mail to the address specified at the bottom of the Tomato FAQ, but haven't gotten a response, I'm guessing it got junked.

    I have dd-wrt running on it, but with all due respect to the dd-wrt folk who came up with the non-surgical solution to reflash it to the third party firmware, recent dd-wrt builds are flaky in some areas so sometimes I have no idea if something isn't working because it's broken or because I'm doing something wrong.

    Please help, would really love to flash Tomato to my only unit I can experiment with!
  12. maypo52

    maypo52 Guest

    WRT54GS question

    Hello All,

    I just acquired an wrt54gs router and I am trying to determine what version HW I have and if I can install Tomato or one of the other versions of FW. I apologize if this info is already listed in the forums. The label on the router I have says it's a WRT54GS ver.6, serial # cgn91F5xxxxx. The firmware version is v1.50.6 dated Feb. 17, 2006. Thanks in advance.

  13. SgtPepperKSU

    SgtPepperKSU Network Guru Member

    Your router is not compatible with Tomato (only ver 1-4 for WRT54GS). Though, you may be able to get DD-WRT to work.
  14. eegorr

    eegorr Network Guru Member

    Tomato support for WTR54GS

    I was just browsing the forum for info on this router and came across this thread. Your answer is a bit confusing - is version 1 of the hardware supported by Tomato? If so, where can I find intructions for upgrading the firmware?

    I know that DD-WRT supports it, but I would like to stay with Tomato if at all possible.
  15. eegorr

    eegorr Network Guru Member

    My WTR54GS is now running dd-wrt v24

    Well, I managed to update my WTR54GS v1 to run the latest version of dd-wrt, but I would still rather be running Tomato since I am more familiar with it.

  16. eegorr

    eegorr Network Guru Member

    If it is the CPU that is the difference, why did the then current version of dd-wrt port directly to WTR54GS without modifications? Everything else in a version 1 WTR54GS is virtually identical to a WRT54GS, including memory size (RAM and NVRAM). How different could the 5350 be from the 5352 in my WRT54GSv4 routers from a programming standpoint?

    I have a couple of these things (both version 1) and would like to use them when I travel. The trouble with the Linksys firmware is it does not support any kind of security when connecting to a wireless ap. This is an obvious problem, unless the hotel provides wired internet access to every room.

    The problem I am having with dd-wrt is that I can't figure out how to make this thing operate the way it did when it was running the Linksys firmware - there are just too many options... it is mind boggling! Glad I went with Tomato instead for my other routers, BTW!

    Am I the only person posting here who owns one of these things?
  17. TVTV

    TVTV LI Guru Member

    Is Linksys providing the sources for the WTR54GS firmware? If so, then somebody here might be able to help you, if pointed in the right direction. ;)
  18. eegorr

    eegorr Network Guru Member

    Apparently, it is open source, just like the others. I wouldn't know how to go about getting the source code, though - it's not like they provide a download page for it! If someone knows how to get source code from Linksys for the other models, they should be able to get source code for the WTR54GS.

    But that was not really my point. Most of the functionality comes from the Broadcom chip, not from any special code that Linksys has written for it. If someone is familiar with the difference between the 5350 (in WTR54GS) and 5352 (in WRT54GS v3 & v4, among others) they could tell me if Tomato firmware will run on it or not. My WTR54GS v1 has exactly the same amount of RAM and NVRAM as my WRT54GS v4 routers, so memory should not be a problem. Apparently, they are similar enough that the then-current version of dd-wrt was able to be run, unmodified on the WTR54GS, but they had to come up with a way to get the firmware loaded into it since it did not run CFE. Now that it is running dd-wrt, the normal firmware upgrade procedure can be used. If someone was willing to tell me that it should work, I might be willing to try it, but I haven't been able to attract much attention to this topic since it is a pretty obscure piece of hardware!

    There is one cool thing that the WTR54GS does that it won't do (unless I am missing something) with dd-wrt firmware: it has the ability to connect to a wireless ap, just like device would, then share that connection with multiple devices, both wired and wireless. I know, it sounds like WDS, but you don't have to do anything on the gateway end (WDS requires the gateway to be set up to allow a potential WDS partner tp connect to it). The problem with the stock firmware is that this very useful mode only works when there is no encryption used by the wireless access point you are trying to connect to - which you are not likely to find in a public area like a hotel!

    Actually, whatever mode the WTR54GS uses to connect to a wireless ap, if implemented in Tomato firmware, could be a useful function for condo or apartment dwellers who want to share a single internet connection. Maybe that would drum up some interest in the firmware for this box!

    UPDATE: After doing a little looking around, it seems that the stock firmware connects in REPEATER mode, which is fine except that the lack of support for security makes it pretty much worthless! I don't think that Tomato supports this mode, but I could be wrong. Anyway, for now, I guess I will just have to stick with dd-wrt, unless someone takes an interest in this router.
  19. rizsher

    rizsher Network Guru Member

    Once upgraded using DD-WRT, would it not be possible to switch to Tomato?. I've done a bit of reading, an it seems this is possible with WRT54G-TM, would the same not apply to the latter versions of the WRT54GS?.
  20. gneumarke

    gneumarke Networkin' Nut Member

    Jumping in a bit late here, but I just ran across one of these WTR54GS 's at a rummage sale. Did you ever try flashing from DD-WRT to Tomato?
  21. jwall

    jwall Reformed Router Member

    Trying to confirm info I have found about this router and tomato. It looks like tomato version 1.24 added this router (which to be specific is the small, portable WTR54GS) to the firmware, as per the announcement:

    "Here's 1.24... Sorry for the long pause there. Have a nice weekend everyone. :)
    Version 1.24...
    • Added ID for WTR54GS, WZR-G108 - thanks to BaoWeiQuan; WR100 - thanks to Hovsep."
    So, first, I assume but wanted to confirm that the "added ID" means that the firmware will work in the listed WTR54GS router.

    Second, if so, can I assume then that the further, future variants which built on the original firmware would also then work on the WTR54GS as well?

    I use Toastman's v1.28.7633.3 (thank you for your continued work Toastman) which I use on a WRT54GS and an Asus WL-500gP v2. I would like to keep all my routers on the same firmware as much possible. (I know the WTR has less flash memory than the other two.)

    So basically does an ID mean the router is covered and is then carried/kept in future variants? I apologize if this an obvious question to more experienced hands. Wanted to try to confirm and not risk bricking yet another router as I did with an atheros based one already. :( Any help or guidance would be appreciated. Thanks.
  22. suddenly helpful

    suddenly helpful Reformed Router Member

    I have the WRT54GS V4 router running Victek's Tomato RAF Firmware v1.28.8515 _RAF ND Std. Running strong after 4+ years. But I want to upgrade to a newer Tomato firmware with a few new features...would it be possible to use the newer Tomato RAF, Shibby, or Toastman? What do you recommend?
  23. mstombs

    mstombs Network Guru Member

    This ancient thread was about the WTR (which to be specific is the small, portable WTR54GS)

    For WRT54GS V4 see other recent discussions about WRT54GL (basically same router) - there hasn't been much development on these old non-usb routers with limited flash (4MB) + ram (16MB) which seem to work better on older K2.4 kernel versions, and will be a bottleneck when you get an internet connection over ~30Mb/s
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