XBOX Live ports question... Moderate NAT

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by NITROFiST, Apr 15, 2010.


    NITROFiST Addicted to LI Member

    I also noticed that my NAT is moderate now so I'm here too post for a bit more information from
    You guys...

    I have added these ports
    * TCP 80
    * UDP 88
    * UDP 3074
    * TCP 3074
    * UDP 53
    * TCP 53

    now my question is why doe's my NAT say OPEN if I set a static IP and then plug my Xbox in
    Using a wired Ethernet cable

    But when I try too use the official wireless network adapter from Microsoft that
    When I go too test connections it says my NAT is moderate only when using wireless??

    Anybody have any clues on why I can't get an Open NAT using wireless but only wired
    Connections??? I will use wired for the time being if I have too but I really don't like the idea of
    Having a 50foot cord down the hall that the wife and kids will probably trip on all the time you know?

    Well as always thanks for reading man...
  2. Azuse

    Azuse LI Guru Member

    Added those ports to what? Delete them if you forwarded them, turn on upnp, restart router & xbox.
  3. FattysGoneWild

    FattysGoneWild LI Guru Member

    Yeah upnp works great. Never had a xbox live problem and my nat is always open.

    NITROFiST Addicted to LI Member

    I've messed around with Upnp before with no such luck... I've been told never too mess with it because it's also a huge security risk in your network....

    so id rather stay away from that if at all possible...not that it matters since it didn't change anything and still said moderate...
  5. Azuse

    Azuse LI Guru Member

    Upnp is and never has been a risk, at least not in tomato where it's restricted to simply opening ports. Upnp could only be used from the lan side. Upnp will never be used from the lan side since home routers allow all outbound data by default. Or put another way, if you get a virus/malware it doesn't matter if you have upnp on or not. Although if you don't things simply will not work.

    Either use upnp and things work, or don't and they don't.
  6. GhaladReam

    GhaladReam Network Guru Member

    Azuse is correct. There is absolutely nothing wrong with uPnP. Whoever told you this is/was a networking amateur. Take it from us.. Delete your forwarded ports, and re-enable uPnP.
  7. D2149

    D2149 Addicted to LI Member

    I don't use uPnP on my system and instead simply forward the appropriate ports the XBOX requires. Have never had a NAT problem in the 8 years I have been using XBOX Live using this forwarding scheme first on the original XBOX and later with the 360.

    Here is the correct port forwarding scheme for the XBOX LIVE network. You need to assign a static IP address to your 360 in order to forward these ports to that device properly. I use, but you can use anything outside of your router's DHCP range.

    Ports to forward to static IP of XBOX 360:

    On UDP 88,89

    On UDP 3074,3075

    On TCP 3074,3075
  8. bripab007

    bripab007 Network Guru Member

    I've done both manual port forwards and UPnP forwarding now for years, and neither have been a problem. Now that Tomato uses miniupnpd daemon, and my wife and I both uses Macs which have quite a few programs that take advantage of NAT-PMP, I prefer to let the UPnP/miniupnpd service do its thing.
  9. Zachary Shuford

    Zachary Shuford Networkin' Nut Member

    I had issues with a Moderate NAT at first, but setting NAT loopback to "All" fixed this. It's under Advanced -> Firewall
  10. gutsman7

    gutsman7 Networkin' Nut Member

    The only port of all those you really need is UDP 3074. All others are open by default make sure you reboot xbox and your router to confirm applied settings.
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