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Any funny or silly stories about wireless networks?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Esquire, Mar 13, 2005.

  1. Esquire

    Esquire Mesquire Staff Member Member

    I've a handful of sillies about wireless networks. What about you folks? I'll start by sharing one of mine.


    I was at work one day and I got a called from the mother of a friend, whose wireless network I setup. She complained her Sony Viao notebook couldn't connect to her network suddenly. I asked her with the usual troubleshooting stuff, but nothing, so she insisted I went over to take a look after work.

    I went over there after work and took a look and sure enough, no wireless network detected, then I noticed her notebook's wireless indicator light wasn't on. I flicked the switch and the adapter came alive again - she accidentally flicked the switch off with her thumb while she was typing and thereby turning off the adapter's radio!
  2. oopsibrokeit

    oopsibrokeit Network Guru Member

    i got some...

    man, if thats all you get out of your folks, then the users at my place are proper IT neanderthals with the retention of a goldfish.

    I have sales guys who forget that switching the radio off, means having to switch it back on again, and they forget how to do it. When you show them they pull the 'well it should just f'in well work when *I* want it to, alright... ' routine because they feel stupid!

    the best one however is one of our supposedly savvy engineers who programs our machines, he has to have the biggest and best of everything.

    he bought a dlink multiband pcmcia card with external aerial, and then just b*tched for weeks that he couldn't get a signal, eventually i got fed up and went and sat at his lappy, the great idiot had only set the card to somewhere in the 5ghz band because in his words 'i thought 5ghz was better because it's got a bigger number' this is all very well, except that we have 2.4ghz AP's.

  3. Couledouce

    Couledouce Network Guru Member

    Just the usual stories of meeting rooms being installed with wireless access to facilitate the use of laptops, then a week later laptops are banned from meeting rooms because everybody is reading their emails during the meetings!
  4. windsurfer

    windsurfer Network Guru Member

    We have been playing with some wifi antennas at work. We were using a network analyzer to test some new designs. The network analyzer was located in an empty cube next to my friends desk. Along came a manager and called a meeting.

    Everyone went to the nearest conference room and sat down for the meeting. One of the guys had his wireless laptop and was complaining bitterly that he could not get connected to the newtork.

    It occured to us that we had not shut off the newtork analyzer. The new antenna was blasting the area with 2.4 GHZ and was interfering with wifi reception.

    This seemed like a good way to solve the "reading email" during a meeting if you were the presenter.
  5. Toxic

    Toxic Administrator Staff Member

    one of my mates had a problem setting up an ADSL wireless router. He couldn't get a connection, he had 2 BT engineers out and one so called IT specialist out, but none could get the connection working to the ISP.

    I came around not knowing much about ADSL just to have a look, and found the adsl lead was placed in the wrong phone socket on the back of the router

    DOH :)

    worked like a charm as soon as the correct socket was used.
  6. fizzerfits

    fizzerfits Network Guru Member

    You all remember when those d@mned Intel centrino wireless commercials came out? You know the ones; some cold shmuck and his shurpa are up on Mt. Everest and are video conferencing with their families and the Intel guy goes 'wireless anywhere!'.

    Those commercials were the bain of every I.T. department - I've had people call me while they are in the alps asking why they couldn't connect to the Internet:

    "Well, where are you plugged into?"
    "I'm not plugged into anything, I'm using wireless"
    "Is it asking you for a password? Something called a WEP key?"
    "I told you, it's not doing anything!"
    "Hmmm, where are you exactly?"
    "In my car."
    "In your car? You're in your car? You're calling me from your car?"
    "Yes, I'm in my car"
    "Are you near a building with wireless?"
    "No, I don't need to be"
    "What? Who the hell told you that?"
    "The Intel guys on the commercial"
    "What commercial? Where they in a car in this commercial?"
    "No, they were on Mt. Everest."
    "Are *you* on Mt. Everest?"
    "Uhhhmm, no."
    "Then you can't get wireless there."

    I mean, sweet bejebus! I've debated many times of spending my vacation and cold hard cash to fly/drive to wherever they made those commercials and throttle the marketing people with a blunt object.

  7. cromrell

    cromrell Network Guru Member

    MAC incident

    So we are working with a consultant who wanted setup on our Wifi.
    So I set him up, and added him to the WiFi MAC allow...

    So he comes in one day, and complians that he can't connect. I walked through all of his settings.

    It took me 45 minutes of enabling, re-installing, changing to XP wifi controls, before I finally asked if anything else had happened to his laptop since he was in the office last...

    Well come to find out tha this laptop hardware had crashed, and the consulting company pulled his HD, and put it into a different system. They told him everything was the same, which was true of everything except his MAC address on his internal Wifi...

  8. t4thfavor

    t4thfavor Network Guru Member

    im planning to "steal" me neighbors cable wirelessly isnt that funny???

    im not sure wireless is a funny subject or anything.

    it will be funny when you all see me on the news either going to jail or in a body cast from falling off my tower....

    ill keep you posted, get it?
  9. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    well i dont thinkt that you will get arressted.i do it everyday , stealling my neighbors wireless network. i guess now it is a hobby
  10. karmakazi

    karmakazi Network Guru Member

    F***ed up my neighbor's Wireless net..OOPS!!

    I have always been able to pick up and use my neighbor's wireless network. I normally don't, as I have my own. Recently I switched ISPs and the Actiontec modem they sent me had the same default SSID as my neighbor's. I was trying to re-configure my modem last night, and I changed a buttload of settings, including the name, and I added WEP encryption. When I was done, I hit "Finish" and my modem was supposed to re-initialize. Well, I had been doing all of this wirelessly, and when my modem didn't do anything, I realized that I had just seriously tweaked my neighbor's modem... I scrambled to log back on to the modem, but the new settings weren't right, and I couldn't access it at all.
    ...Sorry, whoever you are next door!
  11. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    my story is not funny just wierd. i have a 2.4ghz phone that bond channels 1-13. so my entwork goes down everytime the phone is on. also it is about 5 years old. anyway i just installed a new fan on the router. and for somereason the phone does not kill the wireless network when the fan on ther router is on.
    i have no idea what is going on but oh well solved my problem by installing a fan :D
  12. t4thfavor

    t4thfavor Network Guru Member

    the coiling in the fan is absorbing the xmit from th ephone before it can reach the radio. i bet your swr decreased also.
    that is funny but whatever works
  13. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    that is what i said
  14. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    i was over my sisters place and over there are alot of wireless networks that are open. most do not have passwords. and most were linksys some were netgear and dlink. so i downloaded dd-wrt firmware on the router that were wrt and up'ed the xmit power. some did not respond and some wireless signal just died. then i changed some of the ssids to my name (not real name). last time i went there there were only like 2 open wireless neworks. and the rest had wep.
  15. Manip

    Manip Network Guru Member

    So you decided to brick some people's 2.2 or 3.0 routers because you think it's funny?! You make me sick you little shit.
  16. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

  17. Manip

    Manip Network Guru Member

    But you didn't brick some IT pro's WRT, you can tell that by the simple fact that they didn't secure their wireless... What you did was is find someone who might have found setting up their equipment very difficult and time consuming and then might have cost them £50 in buying a new one. I mean if their warranty had ran out then well they would phone Linksys tech support but without information on it being firmware updated Linksys will assume it is dead.

    If I was an admin here I would ban you. And the fact you find it funny just shows what a low kind of human you are.
  18. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    ban me? like you never did something by mistake. i am not out there is ruin routers. if you dont like what you see dont read it
  19. Manip

    Manip Network Guru Member

    I don't have a problem with people "making a mistake" however it is a very different story when those same people seem to find it amusing and thus clearly haven't learnt anything from it.

    Am I supposed to translate that into "I feel bad and it was an accident"? Because right now it reads like - "haha :D I trashed some poor guys router which was just for kicks really ... But no biggy if he knows how he can restore it here, but it was some funny stuff!"

    And the fact you posted in a thread about "funny stories" with one about you trashing peoples WRTs is just impossible to defend.
  20. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    you know what fine ok i am an idot for trashing soe guys router. are u happy now? what do you want from me?
  21. t4thfavor

    t4thfavor Network Guru Member

    well he is almost correct in the fact that you sholdnt have done it. but the fact is that you did it. now that you feel bad you should put yourself in the position to never do it again.
    the fact is that most people smart enough to "revive" a router use wep.
    i on the other hand would just think that it fried since i didnt do anything to it and prolly end up spending more money.

    you may have just not waited long enough since they prolly had the official firmware and it takes a few mins to reboot.

    i am sure if they do a power cycle and maybe push the reset button that the routers will be back up with little knowledge of what happened.

    besides now they will use wep and you cant borrow their net anymore. so basically he is punished by himself

    lay off him he learned his lesson. i am sure
  22. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    thank you t4thfavor

    anyone else that want to make me feel bad be my guest
  23. t4thfavor

    t4thfavor Network Guru Member

    im sure its over now hes sick remember.

    besides i would like to think that i know you a little better than to think that you would do that on purpose more than once.
  24. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    i would not brick some elses router on purpose. and i only did it once and it was a accident. right now i am working on a WRT54G wireless ercurity guide. i have been wanting to work on it but i think that this thread was a meesnage to me to finally write it.
  25. Manip

    Manip Network Guru Member

    I don't think you writing a security guide will help the situation because the only people that will end up reading it are those that don't need to.

    What needs to happen is that Linksys needs to push education on the CD so people understand the basics of how wireless works and how to protects their networks.
  26. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    well there are many people that dont know everything about wireless networks. that is why they register here to learn. and i think that my security guide will help.
  27. t4thfavor

    t4thfavor Network Guru Member

    agreed but most people dont want a configurable router.
    they want one that they can plug in and use
  28. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    i wish firmwares had a wizard that came with them like dlink. that would be cool hint hint brainslyer
  29. Manip

    Manip Network Guru Member

    Without secure defaults what is the point?

    In my opinion on first boot the wireless should be disabled, the security should be set at WPA with a "random" key.
  30. odessit

    odessit Network Guru Member

    Here is the funny one about “network professionals” at Linksys. I bought WRT54GS with matching WPC54GS network adapters and had some questions/problems. So, I decided to use their chat line on their website. Here the transcript. (sorry for the spelling). The most interesting part is obviously in the beginning; at the end I was simply making fun of the tech support:)

    Discussion Thread
    Chat Transcript 04/29/2005 10:48 AM
    Hi, my name is Jesse M(16399). How may I help you?
    mike: WPC54GS –network card,
    WRT54GS –router
    Network adapter monitoring software always reports speed 54Mbps. When I was buying this product I thought that SpeedBoosting technology must deliver speed greater than 54Mbps.
    I tried to change channels; I tried to eliminate any interference, I tried disabling all inscription and authentication methods – all to no avail.
    Any suggestions?
    Jesse M(16399): What is the router that you have?
    mike: second line form the top in my initial message..
    Jesse M(16399): That means you are experiencing interference try changing the channels on the router.
    mike: Beginning of last paragraph of my initial message
    Jesse M(16399): All of them?
    mike: yes...
    mike: it did not take me long to check...and I would not want to waste your time to troubleshoot if I did not check it all before I contact tech support..
    Jesse M(16399): That means you more likely have another wireless device in you vicinity that affects the transmission that is whay it cannot go beyond the 54 speed.
    mike: there are not any other wireless devises in the area that have that great range ...
    mike: I know where is my house and how far away the first neabouring hose:)
    mike: house..
    mike: it is far enough..
    Jesse M(16399): Well something is interfering with the transmission that it adjsut to the 54 speed.
    mike: cool, what would be the way to check what it is?
    Jesse M(16399): we don't have means to check what it is.
    mike: I know for sure that in my house there ARE NO other devices of that kind..
    mike: look, I am serious - there are no other devices..
    mike: there is no interferience..
    mike: I used to run Netgear products before..
    mike: all worked fine at the speed of 108Mbps...
    mike: which indicates that NOTHING was interfering before:)
    Jesse M(16399): Well there may be something , that interfers it would not run 54mbps otherwise unless specified on the card.
    mike: so interference is your only explanation.. right?
    mike: what if I run military scaner in my house and prove that there is no interference that could potentialy influence Linkcyc network cards..? Would you be satisfied than?
    Jesse M(16399): Yes, unless the card is set to work at 54mbps only.
    Jesse M(16399): That maybe so, or that the router may be needed to be tested on our labs to check.
    mike: This particular card does not have switch for the Mbps levels...I thought you knew that
    mike: This is the third router in a row that I am exchanging in BesBuy...
    mike: The theory of probability says that ALL of them can not be bloken…
    Jesse M(16399): If this is your 3rd router and it gives the same 54mbps speed it is possibly a concern on your location, unless the whole batch of routers delivered to bestbuy is defective.
    mike: :)
    mike: you are kidding , right?:)
    Jesse M(16399): Meaning location, interference on your location.
    mike: I already told you - Netgear product with similar technology (speed rate above standard G) worked fien in the same location....
    Jesse M(16399): Even now?
    mike: I am serious -I scaned the place with the military device.. there is NO intererience that could possibly influence the Linkys card...
    mike: yes...even now Netgear products work fine...
    mike: I can disconnect all Linksys and turn back on Netgear setting and cards - wirks ok at 108 Mbps...
    Jesse M(16399): So just return the product to the retail store and inform them of the particular concern.
    mike: works..sorry for the spelling mistakes..
    mike: so, there is no solution to this?
    Jesse M(16399): None, by default the speedbooster technology is set so there is no resolution.
    mike: If you say that there is no technical solution to this and this product marked with SpeedBooster phrase is not operating at a speed higher than 54Mbps - than I'll be glad to return all the things to the store, get back my $300 .
    Jesse M(16399): I'm not saying that our product do not have speed of 108 but that the batch of routers that you have is not having more than 54 so just return the product.
    mike: ok, understood, big batch of products mared with SpeedBooster phrase opertes at 54 Mbps max.. just hope I'll find out how big a a batch...
    mike: thanks,,.
    Jesse M(16399): Thanks for chatting.
    mike: disconnected
    Jesse M(16399): disconnected
  31. odessit

    odessit Network Guru Member

    Forgot one more, still cannot understand the relevance of the tech support questions :)

    Hi, my name is Whreachelle C(12448). How may I help you?
    mike: Hi.
    WPC54GS network card. After installation of the driver and monitoring software I have NICServ.exe running as a service. The file came with the above install since it is located in the installation directory for the card.
    I need to know what this file is for and why it is needed. I killed the process (NICServ.exe) and the wireless is perfectly operational. So why is this file needed at all?

    mike: brb
    mike: ok, I'm here
    Whreachelle C(12448): One moment please.
    mike: sure
    Whreachelle C(12448): What is the operating system of your computer?
    Whreachelle C(12448): Hello, still there?
    mike: soory
    mike: sorry.. I am here
    mike: XP pro (SP1)
    Whreachelle C(12448): Are you running firewall software on your pc or any anti-virus software?
    mike: ZoneAlarm Pro - firewall
    mike: no antiviruse softare
    Whreachelle C(12448): You have to disable your firewall.
    mike: ?
    mike: why? I havo no problem with wirelss network connectivity...
    mike: why do I need to disable my firewall if I only want to find out what is NICServ.exe for?
    mike: ok.. I disabled it... will it help in answering my question about the nessesity of NICServ.exe ?
    Whreachelle C(12448): One moment please. Let me search for that file.
    mike: thank you
    Whreachelle C(12448): I double on that file, it doesn't belong with the software of our card. It is part of your Operating system.
    Whreachelle C(12448): I double check on that file, it doesn't belong with the software of our card. It is part of your Operating system.
    mike: well.. it's located in the instalation directory for the product..
    mike: I am looking at it right now...
    Whreachelle C(12448): When you run the CD that came with it?
    mike: yes..
    mike: C:\Program Files\Linksys\Wireless-G Notebook Adapter with SpeedBooster\NICServ.exe
    mike: see above - this is the directory where the driver and monitoring software is installed...
    Whreachelle C(12448): One moment.
    mike: how are things? just wanted to find out if you got any responce.
    mike: are you still there?
    mike: suka ti ebannaya..
    mike: disconnected
    Whreachelle C(12448): disconnected
  32. littlewhoo

    littlewhoo Network Guru Member

    Well not exactly a funny story, but at least an interesting one:

    A granduncle of mine - almost 70 years old and with not too much experience with computers - got installed a computer, internet access and wlan by a kid in the neighbourhood. Just for writing a few emails and surfing on the web a little bit.

    To his surprise, after a few months he got sued for sharing more than 4000 mp3 files. And I'm pretty sure, that before this he didn't even know what a mp3 file is.

    I had a look at his wlan router and his usage statistics and after changing the WPA key, his monthly traffic suddenly dropped from over 20 GB to less than 1 GB.

    Now guess, what happened to the kid who did setup the wlan originally. :evil: :clubbed: :cross:
  33. Manip

    Manip Network Guru Member

    Considering how few people have got sued for piracy I doubt the above story is true. We would have a greater chance of seeing a "I won the lottery jackpot" story than a "I got sued by the music industry" story.
  34. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    could be true but people to hit the lotto :)
  35. t4thfavor

    t4thfavor Network Guru Member

    Oh how i wish that were still true. This is the reason I only listen to the radio now. Oh to be able to buy cd's again without feeling guilty.

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